The balding area on top
Have you been shedding less hair lately, or has the shedding stopped?!
You really need to see a trichologist and get your scalp taken care of. You have a couple of red spots that can be seen in your photos that is indicative of seborrhic dermatitis. Although you definitely have a visible cosmetic change to many of us who don't look at you daily like you do, your results would be much better if you were working to just control Androgenic Alopecia and not other skin related issues on your scalp. Would you try and how a garden in soil that wasn't good? Why would you try to improve your hair without preparing the soil first?
This has been a fault with your blog from the onset. Theradome isn't some miracle cure all, nor have they claimed to be, but if you're suffering from AA, it's the next best thing to having an MEP-90 in your house (which unless you're a doctor, you can't) and maybe even better, but it's not going to provide it's full potential if you have underlying issues like your scalp.
I agree. I have been doing the TGEL TSAL Nizoral and Head and shoulders shampoo protocol that Theradome recommends and it is speeding up my progress enormously. You should take care of the underlying scalp condition. The shampoos are improving my scalp condition. Start doing the 5 min per shampoo at least for some time. It is making a big difference for me while using the Theradome. Trust me.
and I second CD's constructive feedback.....as I address this many times on my hairlosshelp/theradome review by request thread!
Stevo you seem to be the biggest supporter of the theradome helmet but your results are laughable at best and you use so many other products who knows what's really working for you. You are constantly promoting your thread and brag about it as if it's such a big accomplishment your just an old man with no other hobbies but hairloss forums. The only reason I even took the time to post this comment is because the man who created this blog is completely honest about his experience and seems to be very happy to help people on here,unlike yourself who never answers question just tell people to read through his entire thread if the question has already been answered as if anyone has that kind of time on there hand because I guess you do but some people have lives that is why I have never even bothered signing up to post. Stevo must want people to read through his whole thread so he gets more views on it which is sad because what do you get out of that? Fame on a hairloss forum haha.
Thanks for the good laugh Paul George......but the fact remains....CD makes a very valid point!
I must say Tamim's hair looked good on Pix11. I wonder if he's on any medication. I don't recommend propecia because of its side effects, which is why I quit using it.
Tamim told me he used minox and propecia to no avail. Hence, all he used was Nizoral NO MORE than 3x a week and theradome to achieve his results.
The ignorance on many of these threads is simply astounding! Paul George must be an alias because no one with any knowledge of hair loss or LLLT would look at steveo's changes and say he's gotten nothing. Front hairline new growth! are you f***ing kidding me?? WOW!
And yes, Weebly has provided constant input about his time with the Theradome. Unfortunately, his knowledge is rather lacking too, or he would've done something about his scalp condition. Your scalp is your soil... if it's not clean and healthy, expecting good results from LLLT is like expecting multitudes of tomatoes from your garden when you were too lazy to turn, weed, and fertilize the soil.
So, Paul George... any other completely ignorant and uninformed statements you'd like to babble on about, you might just keep to yourself as you have ZERO credibility on this thread!
Spot on CD
...and to add to his lack of credibility:
1) I may be a fan of the Theradome technology (because our group did an intense LLT summary write up of ~8 pages......nonetheless, he obviously is to lazy or ignorant to see I SLAM Theradome on other initial communication issues on both this blog and our thread.
2) Of course he is also so lazy he never has seen the 900+ posts answering questions......the difference is....I made it clear in the beginning that we would not waste time answering questions that were already answered in detail.
3) And of course he is also too lazy to read that I rarely post....thus go months or years without posting since 2000. Theradome is just a break-through treatment that I wanted to expose people to and will see it to the end....and then as stated before....ride off into the sunset again.
4) And of course he did not get your original post....as it was not a slight against Domerieviewer/Blog Admin....but more about addressing the underlying issues....
.....in fact he is so lazy he never has read all the compliments I have given Domereiver on my thread.
At the end of the day.....it is a waste of time having intelligent conversations with people where there elevator does not quite go all the way to the top.
I'm certainly not coming to the defense of Paul George here (who I agree is clueless), but I do feel I have to point out an oversimplification you're making CD.
Scalp condition and hair growth are not necessarily connected. That's the same kind of loose correlation you see guys make with hair and diet (plenty of malnourished people with full heads of hair to prove that point). The fact of the matter is Domereviewer has thin hair because of MPB. Not because he hasn't dealt with an underlying scalp inflammation issue. MPB IS his underlying scalp issue. It's not the other way around.
Now I certainly don't disagree that trying to address inflammation and scalp health through some suggested routes (different shampoos, etc) is a good idea. It is and it most likely will help to some degree, but that's not going to make or break the success of the Theradome with this user. It just isn't. Whether he chooses to use TSAL/TGEL or whatever other shampoo, it really isn't going to change his end result very much (maybe he gets there faster. maybe). Either LLLT works for him or it doesn't and I think that is the point of his blog. I applaud him for sticking to that.
You know how much I respect some of your posts on my thread.....but in this case......I am going to have side with CD on this one.
Specifically, you have done enough research on what CD is talking about......I have.....and it is one of the reasons why I address it in my MPB theory/protocol post.
In fact, I will be linking a youtube video from one of the speakers at recent hair conference who addresses this exact issue.
We might have to agree to disagree on this point. I agree inflammation and various scalp issues are prevalent with MPB, but it's the chicken before the egg.
DHT is the trigger for MPB. If you remove DHT early enough, no balding occurs. We know this because of the pseudoherms. Once the process starts though, it stops being entirely about DHT and moves into other things (which I do not believe we fully understand - it isn't simply inflammation - there is an underlying cause). If MPB remained all about DHT, dutstasteride would regrow full heads of hair. I doubt we disagree fundamentally on any of this.
But the fact remains, any inflammation and/or associated scalp conditions are a symptom of MPB, they are not the cause. Treating them is certainly beneficial for some, but no more so than taking a cough suppressant is for a cold. You aren't curing the cold, you are simply treating a symptom of it. And that doesn't really have a whole lot of benefits in many cases.
Long story short, you aren't going to suddenly regrow massive amounts of hair by treating symptoms of the condition. That's why nothing out there actually reverses MPB. With the exception of finasteride/dutasteride (which do treat an initial cause of MPB), the only thing treatments we have available today do is treat symptoms. It's simply not enough and why all of us continue to try new things and have been posting and researching for 20 years with minimal results to show for it. Treating scalp inflammation with shampoos and whatever else is the same tired angle and it isn't going to accomplish much of anything.
We both got pretty significant results from the Theradome early. Many have not, and I suspect it might have to do with the fact that those people are not dealing with DHT (some of them anyway). I'll know in September if I'm really going to cross into new territory or not, or if this treatment is going to end up disappointing in the long run. At the end of the day, LLLT might simply be treating symptoms too and not addressing any underlying cause.
I'm certainly interested in the new treatments you keep teasing. But as with everything, I want to see clinical data for it. Because this industry is full of empty promises from companies cashing in on the vulnerable audience that is the MBP sufferer. I do not doubt your pure intentions and I value your input, but I'm a lot more skeptical that you are when it comes to new treatments or twists on old ones. The reality is we do not fully understand how MPB works. So companies claiming to have new treatments who can't back that up with real human clinical data are IMO scamming people. At best it's based on loose science and simply irresponsible.
Ahdabahns - just to clarify... Yes his root problem is AA, however AA has nothing to do with the scalp, as it occurs at the follicle level.
I know. And that's my point. Because the two really aren't connected, his scalp condition is not why he isn't growing hair.
I don't disagree he should treat his scalp condition, it's just not going to change his Theradome results is all I'm getting at.
Wow....this is hilarious I being verbally attacked by I bunch of losers. I wanna make it clear that this will be my last post because it's clear that losing your hair must have you guys losing your sanity as well and i don't get anything out of arguing with senile old men. First of all CD and Ahadabans I am disappointed at the fact you guys are a bunch of sack riders for coming to stevo rescue and trying to throw little jabs at me for no reason whatsoever because how can you assume I'm not knowledgeable about LLT when I did not even really state my opinion on it. I wrote that comment because stevo from what I have been able to read has more than once belittled people who asked simple questions on an open forum he feels he owns. So I felt the need to speak up on behalf of them because someone had to take this senior citizen off his hairloss forum high horse haha and it's sad you two are so pathetic you feel you need stevo approval. Now I would like to share my take on the situation being that I used the theradome helmet for 7 months since January not even in hopes of regrowth but to help with a thinning area in my mid scalp the size of a quarter or ever so slightly bigger than a quarter. Anyway the theradome helmet made absolutely no change to my hair in fact I would use it every other day which is more than the recommended usage. Ahadabans just to prove I'm the bigger man In which I most likely am I do agree with your response to CD using any kind of shampoo to treat any other underlying inflammation isn't going to make or break his results even though mpb has an inflammation aspect to it treating that part of it clearly doesn't stop hair from thinning or there would be no propecia. I also would like to point out I was using no other medication neither propecia or minoxidil because the side affects aren't worth it for the amount of thinning I have that is why I thought theradome would be a good option for me. I want to say to Domereviewer and anyone else reading this that he is doing an amazing job archiving his results he is not sugar coating things like other places he is being completely honest with this blog so anybody considering buying this device should listen to Domereviewer's opinion only not these nuts on here or other websites. I made a personal decision to buy this device and it did not work out for me that is my personal experience I thought i may be the minority though so that is how I found this blog to see if it worked for others so we will see, So if you want to purchase it don't do so because stevo or CD tell you it's good do so based on your own research and actual results. Stevo grew hair SUPPOSEDLY on his hairline but is bald behind it so you mean to tell me LLT worked on the most difficult part of your head to grow hair but not on your mid scalp or crown come on dude. My opinion is and stevo make sure you refer back to this you fool in 6 months when your still bald that people wont regrow a full head of hair from LLT that will be even close to what they showed in the promo video but that's just my opinion. stevo remember these words when people start posting there results on your forum post.
So let me get this straight
1) 1st Paul George gets caught making things up....including not mentioning my side picture which shows growth in the middle.
2)Then he tops it off by insulting posters here by calling them losers.
Bottomline, I have been at this too long to not smell a "surrogate/alias" a mile away.....thus they like to do the Kamikaze hit and run....especially when confronted.
Hence, I think it would be good if you keep your word and not post here since you add no value and probably could not provide a order #.
On the other hand, you are more than welcome to check back onto my thread in 6 months.....as it would be an absolute pleasure to compare progress notes again.
Seems fair to me?
In the prictures after die haircut your hair looks a bit better. But im not sure if anything more has grown or it just looks good because of the haircut :/
Overvall for over 6 Month of using it, its way so less for a product with high promises.
For what it's worth... I don't see anything remarkable about my scalp. No itching or noticeable flaking / dandruff. Definitely nothing that would have caused me to seek medical treatment. My skin has an overall red tone. But just in case it could help with this process I have purchased a bottle of T/Gel and will begin using it a couple of times each week. I will also add a day or two of Nizoral usage back into the regiment.
Good choice. I would pick up a bottle of TSAL and maybe head and shoulders too. I haven't had flaking or anything either, but my scalp was a little red like yours. Since using the shampoos, my results have improved with Theradome. Make sure to leave each shampoo in for a few minutes.
Like I always said.....objective debates are both normal and healthy....thus I respect your opposing viewpoint because you do your homework (most of the time...chuckle) and you come from a place with no hidden agenda or emotions.
On the other hand....I still think you missed the point.....as underlying issues does not just mean inflammation....which I agree with you....but rather a "variety" of potential underlying issues....ie, impacted sebum, bacteria, fungus, fibrosis.
Hence, the comment from Ferrel (owner of hairlosshelp) that you may have missed on our thread.
GZ11, my personal belief is the following which is similar to how acne works.
The high level of DHT causes an excessive supply of sebum to be created. Under normal circumstances you have bacteria feeding off it, but due to the unusually high amount of sebum it results in an unusually high amount of bacteria and/or fungi.
This throws off the system to the point that too many toxins are being created by the bacteria. They build up too fast for your body to get rid of them. This triggers a response from the immune system which tries to shutdown the follicle which is the source of the problem.
I don't believe this is the primary cause of MPB, just a secondary cause that accelerates the MPB process.
But I also don't think it happens in all people."